Interview with Fred Phillips
Author of
The Gold and Fire Series and more
Please tell me a little about your current work in progress.
I have two projects that I hope to get across the finish line before the end of the year. One is the second book in the "Gold and Fire" series, which will be launching with "Dreams of Gold and Fire" from Raconteur Press on July 30. I think I have the title for the sequel in my head, but I'm not quite ready to commit yet. Things are always subject to change in the writing process, but I can say for sure that it will involve gold and fire. I plan to write the third book in 2026, and I'm pretty certain that it will be titled "Knight of Gold and Fire." That's as far as I have things planned, and that plan is only loose at this point. After that, we'll see where the story goes. Of course, it will be up to Raconteur when or if the others will be published.
The second project is a western fantasy for adults titled "No Man's Son." It features my magic wielding gunslinger Bartimaeus, who you can read about in "Blackhand" from the Rac Press Wyrd West: Cursed Canyon anthology. The first draft is done, and I'm currently letting it rest a bit before the second draft, which is my usual process.
There's also another fantasy novel that I finished in late 2024 that's making its rounds to potential publishers now. It's part "Monster Hunter"-style urban fantasy and part portal fantasy. Fingers crossed, I'll have some good news to report on that, too. If not, I'll likely go the self-pub route somewhere down the road. Sequels to it are planned, but on the backburner for now as I'm more focused on Gold and Fire for the immediate future.
Where did
you get the idea for this book or series?
The idea for
"Dreams of Gold and Fire" goes back to my teenage years in the 1980s.
It was originally written as a short story called "Golden Rewards." I
never really liked that title, but those have always been a challenge for me.
It was a much simpler tale then, about a boy who runs away from home and meets
a dragon, a mythical creature that he's been teased and chastised for dreaming
about. It was the first story that I ever felt comfortable submitting for
publication. It got rejected, a lot.
The novel version started life around 2012 and was inspired by my own son. He
was about six or seven, and he had this game he would play where he would ask
really silly questions. When you would tell him that what he was asking about
couldn't happen, he'd always respond with, "but what if it did?" That
optimism found its way into the main character Aron, and the theme of the book
became more about following your dreams no matter what the obstacles were. In
earlier versions of the novel, I actually used my son's name for the character,
but in the end, I didn't think it fit with the world, so I went back to the
original name of Aron from the short story. (There's now a character in another
of my worlds named after my son, so he still gets his moment, too.)
When Raconteur Press opened their call for boys' adventure books last year, I thought that the book was a perfect fit, so I pulled it out, polished it up and sent it in. Luckily, they thought it was a good fit, too.
Do you write in more than one genre?
Yes, I do. I've published stories in fantasy, science fiction, horror, horror comedy, and – believe it or not – the first story I sold back in 1998 was a romance. I'd say fantasy is my primary genre, with horror secondary (and it's usually closer to dark fantasy). The other genres are more rare, and I doubt that I'll ever write another romance since that one was kind of accidental. But never say never.
Tell me about something that you believe makes your writing unique or worthy of attention.
I spent about 20 years
in the newspaper business, and over that time, I talked to a lot of people from
a lot of different backgrounds with many different perspectives. Translating
what was often an hour or more's worth of conversation into a relatively short
and digestible article that still managed to show who they were brought a focus
to my fiction writing as well. I don't think there are many wasted words in
what I write. The story is constantly moving forward.
I think it also gave me an ear for conversation, which makes the dialogue a
little more natural and helps me bring a voice to my characters.
The downside to that, of course, is the "just the facts" approach
that was ingrained in journalism sometimes spills over a bit too much into what I write, so I have to
work to see the places where maybe a little more description is needed or where
I might need to dive a little deeper into the details.
Is there anything about your personal history or personality that manifests strongly in your writing?
I've always been very passionate about music, in particular heavy metal. I play guitar (very poorly) myself and at one time had rock star dreams. Luckily, I'm a better writer than musician. I'm the kind of guy who gets annoyed when people try to talk to me while a favorite song is playing or when I go to a concert and the people behind me try to continue their conversation over the music.
A lot of my inspiration for writing comes from music. I often find the seed of a story, or even a novel, in a random song lyric. The end story usually has no connection whatsoever to the song. The lyric sparks the idea, which takes on a life of its own and leads me down another path.
That said, for those who know, there are always some musical Easter eggs hidden in my stories. Sometimes they're fairly obvious, other times you have to put two and two together, but they're almost always there.
What else would be helpful for readers to know about you?
I spend a lot of quiet time in the woods or on the water, which is often where my stories take shape. That's where I twist and turn the ideas and try to mold them into something interesting. Some of those ideas hang around for a long time. Obviously, the idea behind "Dreams of Gold and Fire" was born in the late 1980s. "No Man's Son" has been kicking around in my head for at least six or seven years. I have one idea that I'm about 25,000 words into that I've been playing around with for about 35 years. It will absolutely be finished and published one day, even if I have to do it myself.
Excluding
your own work, what underrated author or book would you recommend that more
people read? Why?
I'm not sure
that he's necessarily underrated in the grand scheme of things, but at least in
the U.S., I rarely hear people talk about the late great David Gemmell. He was
a big influence on me, and I think his name belongs in the conversation with
the greats of the fantasy genre. If you read my stories about Bartimaeus and
you've read Gemmell's Stones of Power books, you'll definitely see the shadow
of Jon Shannow looming large in the background.
The thing that I love about Gemmell is his heroes are gritty, but at the same time, they don't really cross over into grimdark territory. He also understood that real heroes don't go on adventure after adventure for 25 or 30 books. For most, there are only a few moments of often-reluctant heroism, and I think he captured that well.
Which of your books do you most highly recommend? Why?
The only one that's out there right now that's all mine is "Dreams of Gold and Fire." I'd recommend it because it's a simple, classic adventure tale. It's filled with action and fueled by hopes and dreams. My only goal when I sit down to write something is to tell a good story, and this book is a perfect example of that. It's fun, and it's the kind of thing that I would have loved to read when I was a kid. I think it can be enjoyed by the eight-year-old who is looking for something magical and exciting or the 50-year-old who is an adventure and dragon-loving kid at heart.
Which break, event, decision, or fortuitous circumstance has helped you or your writing career the most?
After writing for most of my life, I actually gave up on it for about a decade. The short version of the story is that I finished my fourth book around 2000. It was, at the time, far and away the best thing I'd ever written, and I was convinced it was "the one." I sent it to hundreds of publishers and agents, and it was soundly rejected by every single one. It crushed me, and I decided that I just wasn't very good at this.
I returned to writing
about 10 years later, but even then, it was just because I needed it. I wasn't that
interested in submitting to publishers and didn't for another 10 or 11 years.
In 2021, I saw an open call for dragon stories from Wolfsinger Publications. It
turned out that I knew the editor from one of the early online writing groups
I'd been in. I had a story titled "Domestic Dispute" that had been
accepted by three different publications back in the late 1990s, and every
single one of them had gone out of business before the story was published. I
polished it, sent it in (with a tongue-in-cheek warning about its history), and
it got accepted for a collection called "Crunchy with Chocolate."
That inspired me to write a story for another anthology, and while it got
rejected for that one, it was picked up by a different publisher. That really
got the ball rolling for me again.
Around the same time, I discovered the WriterDojo Facebook group, which was
fairly new, and found inspiration among the folks there. It was also where I
first heard about Raconteur Press. Once I got published with Rac Press, it was
off to the races, and I've been writing and submitting like crazy again ever
since.
What’s it like being a Raconteur Press author? What can you tell us about the process involved in getting published by Rac Press?
When I found Raconteur
Press, I really felt like I found my literary home. They have been fantastic
with the short stories that I've had accepted in their anthologies, and everyone
that I've worked with has been absolutely amazing through the process of
publishing my first novel. They care about their authors and are willing to
invest time and effort into making them successful, which is something that's
become kind of rare in publishing these days. Where a lot of people are looking
for the next big thing, they're willing to put in the time to try to develop
you into the next big thing.
I've also never seen a publisher that's as honest and open with their authors.
Sales and royalties are an open book, and you can view them any time. The
contracts are simple and straightforward with no heavy legalese, and if you
have a question, you can get a straight answer quickly.
They're growing like wildfire, and there's a cool community of writers and
editors behind the scenes. If you have something that fits one of their open
calls, I can't recommend them more highly.
What question do you wish you would get asked more often?
Would you like this million dollars that I have laying around? I think that would be a fantastic question to hear at least once.
Seriously, though, I think it would be around finally finding some success at writing later in life. Just recently, I talked to a writer on social media who was saying that she just turned 50 and hadn't been able to sell a book yet. She was asking the community if she should just give it up. The answer to that, for me, is a resounding no. I gave it up for a long time, and it was a huge mistake. I often wonder where my career might be if I had continued to write with the same drive that I had before that failure. It's one of the greatest regrets of my life.
On the other hand,
getting the initial note from Cedar Sanderson at Raconteur earlier this year
telling me that they were interested in publishing "Dreams of Gold and
Fire" was one of the highest points in my life. I never would have
experienced that if I'd given it up forever.
If being a writer is really your dream, I can promise that if you give up, you
will look back on it with regret. I had my most successful year as a writer at
the age of 51, and I'll be 52 when my first novel comes out. I don't care if you're
70 or 80 or 90, it's worth it for that shining moment that an editor says to
you, "this is really good, and we want to publish it."
Do you have a catch-phrase or quote that you like? What is it? And why do you choose it?
I don't really have a catch phrase or a go-to quote, but I often speak in quotes from "The Princess Bride," "Star Wars," and "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," among others. It's amazing how often they have something perfect for the situation. Inconceivable, you might say.
People can find Fred at https://fredwritesfantasy.com and https://fredwphillips.
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Thanks to Fred for participating. I'm happy to point out that the two Raconteur Press anthologies he chose to include in the pictures to accompany his interview both contain stories by me. Fred and I have more in common than he knows, and perhaps we're about to have more in common.
I'm at Writers Cantina. It's Pioneer Day in this country, and fireworks are going off all around tonight as I write this. Earlier, I attended an informal dinner get together not far from my hotel. There were no casualties, as far as I know. I also got to chat with a couple authors, including the editor of the anthology pictured below. He even remembered that it also included one of my stories.
As far as writing goes, I've got a new story in the works. I sent off a story this week and will send off another next week.