Interview with Nick Nethery
Author of
Relics of the Fallen
Please tell
me a little about your new book published by Raconteur Press.
Relics of the Fallen.
Dan Kelly, an Army bomb technician getting close to retirement, is
recruited into a secret unit dealing with highly advanced, dangerous artifacts
and devices scattered around Earth by…who?
Aliens? A human civilization that
predated our known history? We find out
as Dan finds out.
I think of Relics of the Fallen as military
science fiction, but it could also be called military fantasy or military
thriller.
I wrote most of it on lunch breaks when I was stationed
in the Netherlands working for NATO. My
boss knew I was retiring soon and was gracious enough to let me shut my office
door and just write during my lunch hour.
(Thanks, Ralph!)
You can enjoy it as a standalone book, but I’ve got four
more ideated and the next two outlined.
I’m starting on the next book as soon as I’m done with my current
project, which will be very soon.
Where did
you get the idea for this book or series?
My own career as a bomb technician and my love of science
fiction combined to inspire the idea. I
was deeply steeped in ordnance from different countries and was struck by how
much they vary. Logically, a howitzer
round or a landmine should look the same no matter who makes it, right? But no, they’re wildly different. The Soviets and Chinese don’t care about
their soldiers, so their ordnance is made with many fewer safety features. The Italians, of all people, make the best
landmines in the world. GREAT landmines,
just head and shoulders above anyone else.
There are lots of little examples like that. The wide range of both quality and philosophy
of ordnance intrigued me, so I started wondering what ordnance made be an alien
race would look like.
I
also love “alien archaeology” or “alien artifact” themed fiction like The Fifth
Element, the books of Jack McDevitt, The Expanse, Halo, Escape
Velocity…I could go on. Many of
those stories inspired me as well.
Do you
write in more than one genre?
Yes! I lean toward
SF/F because it’s what I prefer to read, but I’ve written short stories that
are westerns, mysteries, and just conventional military thriller. I’ve had some nonfiction articles in various
professional magazines like Proceedings, the in-house magazine for the
US Naval Institute, and a couple of other places. I wrote for Duffel Blog (military satire) for
years. I’m also nearing completion of a
fantasy novel.
Tell me
about something that you believe makes your writing unique or worthy of
attention.
I try to have a love for my characters, and I hope it
shines through. Almost all my characters
are based on or strongly resemble people I’ve been lucky enough to work or
serve with over my adult life, or interesting people I grew up around in my
crazy little Southern small town. My
hope is that my characters are all rich in their own way, and feel like they’re
living their own lives that the reader might only glimpse narrowly. My favorite games and movies make me believe
that we’re only getting a smidgen of the full picture. I vividly remember playing one of the Fallout
games, I can’t remember if it was 3 or New Vegas, but it was
night, pitch black, and I came over a ridge and saw muzzle flashes and lasers
out in the dark. I used the scope on my
rifle to look at what was going on.
There was a whole huge battle playing out between some Super Mutants on
one side and some bandits on the other, and it went on for several
minutes. None of them knew I was there
watching them, and I just let them kill each other while I watched. Once the fight was over, I just wandered
off. It made the world of the game feel
so rich, like I was just a tiny part of it.
I love the idea of the world my characters live in just carrying on
around and without them. I want to bring
that to my writing.
Is there
anything about your personal history or personality that manifests strongly in
your writing?
My dark humor and complete lack of seriousness in all
situations. People who take themselves
too seriously amuse me, so I enjoy deflating them a little, and gallows humor
is great for that. My characters
frequently whistle past the graveyard, because they’re in terrible situations,
and what else is there to do but joke?
If you’re in a hopeless situation, you might as well make the people
around you laugh one last time.
What would
be helpful for readers to know about you? Or something that might surprise to
know them about you?
I don’t know about helpful or surprising, but a lot of my
writing is drawn not just from my experiences in the military but with my
kids. The older boys and I have a
long-running game of Gloomhaven that we’ve had going for a couple of
years now (we’re going slowly!), and all of them, once they reach about seven
years old, get to play through all the Halo games with me. Up to Halo 4, that is. Everything after it isn’t worth it. It’s one of the great disappointments of my
life that first person shooters have started to get away from split-screen
co-op. No explanation justifies this. Anyway, playing through Halo with Dad
has become a sort of rite of passage for the kids. I’m most of the way through the first Halo
with my third, and he’s loving it. I
can’t wait to get to the later ones before 4, like ODST and Reach.
Last
year I also got to hike Hadrian’s Wall with my oldest son. That was truly an experience I will remember
for life. I like the idea of reinforcing
for my kids that if you’re tired, or the going gets tough, we still have to
march. We still have to do the job. I’ve got the knees of a guy forty years older
because of my time in the army, but I walked every step of that damn wall, and
along the way we got to share some amazing moments together. I am proud that I demonstrated for my boy
that no matter how tired or sore you are, you don’t call a cab or give up. You keep putting one foot in front of the
other. I also owe a lot to the
scoutmaster (we did it with our Boy Scout troop) for lending me one of his
hiking sticks. Pro tip: hiking sticks
REALLY help if you have bad knees.
Of
course it was a good time that not many people ever get to experience, shared
with my oldest boy, but it was also incredibly inspiring to me as an aspiring
writer. We visited an unearthed Mithras
temple, six or eight Roman forts and a very large Roman bathhouse, and the
scenery was almost always breathtaking.
You can’t beat doing challenging things that you’re not sure you can
finish. It forces you to dig deep and
find toughness you didn’t know you had, and it’s inspiring as hell.
Excluding
your own work, what underrated author or book would you recommend that more
people read? Why?
Wallace Breem was a librarian at a law school library (I
think, if I’ve understood his bio correctly) and only wrote a handful of works
of fiction, all about the Roman Empire. One
of them was The Legate’s Daughter, a fantastic book about a hopeless
mission with little hope of success.
Another is maybe my favorite book of all time, Eagle in the Snow,
about the doomed efforts to stop the barbarians from crossing the Rhine in 406,
which ended up being the beginning of the end of the Western empire. Both books are dark without being hopeless,
and cynical enough that they remind me that no matter what time or place, a
soldier is a soldier.
I’d recommend Neal Asher here, but he’s already pretty
popular, so I’ll just say, his Prador alien species, the crab analogues whose
culture is ultra-violent and prizes selfishness and betrayal above all else,
are the most terrifying alien species I’ve encountered in fiction. The Quarn from In Fury Born are great
(radial symmetry!), and David Gerrold’s Chtorr species may be scary as well,
but the Prador take the cake.
My favorite writer, though, is Tim Powers. He specializes in speculative fiction about
real historical figures and imagines a supernatural explanation for unexplained
things in their lives or gaps in our historical knowledge of their
actions. Powers also does great science
fiction, but he truly excels at the historical fantasy stuff. I wrote a review of his latest, My
Brother’s Keeper, for the Raconteur substack.
I also would recommend some writers we at Raconteur have
published this last year, like Fred Phillips, Wally Waltner, and J. Kenton
Pierce. All of them write such good
stuff but with a unique voice. I have
loved everything I’ve read from them. I
knew them from short story submissions, and they’re so good at that you won’t
believe it, but the novels from all three are just…they’re just so good. I’m jealous of their creativity and
talent. I’m sitting here as a bomb tech
writing a story about a bomb tech, playing small ball, but they’re on the
varsity team smacking homers out of the park with incredible rich worldbuilding
in fantasy and science fiction. I’m a
little in awe to be in such amazing company.
Which of
your books do you most highly recommend? Why?
I only have the one out, so for the moment I recommend Relics
of the Fallen!
What would
you hope a reader would take away from experiencing that book?
A wonder about things we are not yet able to understand
and explain. The strong bonds that I’ve
only ever seen form quickly and deeply in small units of highly-trained
professionals doing important, rewarding work.
Hopefully, some rumination on whether the “magical” artifacts in our own
mythologies and folklores are really any different for us than, say, Wifi or
the iPhone would be for someone living in 1925.
How did
you get involved with Raconteur Press?
The DOD has a program for servicemembers departing the
military called Skillbridge. (The Army
calls it CSP, Career Skills Program, but it’s the same thing.) For a few months before you’re discharged,
you still draw your paycheck, but instead of reporting for duty, you work with
a private industry partner as an intern.
I approached several publishers to ask about interning with them, but no
one seemed that enthusiastic about it when I said I was primarily interested in
writing. My goal was not to be a gopher
or a mailroom guy. I didn’t mind getting
my hands dirty—editing, social media, layout, submissions reader, whatever—but
I wanted to write as well. Raconteur was
the first publisher which agreed to at least look at what I wrote for possible
inclusion in anthologies.
Not long into the Raconteur internship, some scheduling
conflicts arose and an anthology was left without an editor, and I volunteered
to take over. That was Space Marines
III, and I’ve done several anthologies since then. I’ve also learned about editing, putting
together a well-sequenced collection, doing layouts for print and eBooks,
social media…what am I leaving out? I’ve
learned a lot, and much of it has helped me develop as a writer as well. One of the best pieces of advice I would give
aspiring writers is to edit an anthology.
You gain a ton of knowledge very quickly. I think it’s made me a much better writer.
You’ve
edited some anthologies at Raconteur, do you have a favorite of those?
I don’t have a favorite, but I have a habit of thinking
my “best” one is the one I’ve done most recently. Each one teaches me something else about
pacing, consistency and variety, coordination, or even just engaging with
submitting writers. My next one is Mercs
and Mayhem, so ask me after that one is out!
What short stories have you had published?
Let me see. Crowdfunded,
which I co-wrote with Spearman Burke and which won a short fiction contest sponsored
by Proceedings, the Navy’s professional magazine. Current Affairs, a story about a
mermaid for hire. Several stories in
various Raconteur anthologies. You can
find links to all of these on my website, and my nonfiction work as well.
I can also share here, for the first time, that I’ve got
a story in the upcoming Monster Hunter Files volume 2, an anthology set
in Larry Correia’s Monster Hunter International universe. I wrote it with my writing partner, Mike
Burke, and I’m pretty proud of it. Like
a lot of my writing, it’s informed by our experiences. I lived and worked in Stuttgart, so I know
the setting a little more than most; and Mike is like a genius at tactical
tracking, so he was able to write the tracking scenes really well. I’m looking forward to seeing it published in
March of 2026. The name of the story is Monsterkommando. It was a blast to write. Mike’s about the best writing partner I could
ask for, other than his brutal and efficient hatred of double spaces between
sentences. Get over it, Mike!
Is there a
character in the works of your favorite authors that you would enjoy being, or
a place in those works where you would enjoy going?
I would absolutely love to be an AI or augmented human in
Neal Asher’s Polity universe. The
possibilities seem endless to me, in a world where anyone can effectively
sidestep the natural aging process and expand his mind to allow much higher
thinking. I’m not sure if his most
recent work explores it, because I’ve been so busy I haven’t read the last
couple, but after the Prador War in his Polity series, a bunch of the AIs
created to fight the war just go off on their own into uncharted space. They’re effectively immortal, so time isn’t a
concern for them, so they just point their ships toward somewhere nobody has
ever been, and that’s the last humanity ever hears from them. What must they be experiencing in the new
territory they find? The potential is
almost too much for me to comprehend. I
would love to be one of them, and I hope Asher writes about them someday.
With
reference to your own works, is there a character or place you particularly
like?
I like the Dungeon, the facility in Relics of the
Fallen where the Wormwood organization tests and analyzes the various
artifacts that have been recovered from around the world. It seems like a place that would never be
boring and where I could spend years learning and being amazed.
As far as characters, I like Kat, the wife in Relics. I like Namura, the novice accompanying the
main character in the fantasy book I’m currently writing. There’s a girlfriend character who is named
but whom we have not met (yet) in a couple of short stories I have written
about a rural “county wizard,” one of which appeared in the second Wyrd West
collection. The people who motivate my
main characters intrigue me sometimes more than the protagonists
themselves. A hero does what he does
because he loves someone. He puts his
own mortal body in between danger and the people he loves. Sometimes those people are no longer with
him, just a memory, but he still does what he does from love or affection. Someone recharges his batteries and gives him
a rock to ground himself upon. That
someone is his One Thing he can rely on—and is exponentially more damaging to
him if they betray him, seem to lose interest in him, treat him poorly or let him
down. For all these reasons, I find
spouses, children and significant others intriguing as characters.
What
question do you wish you would get asked more often?
“You want to come housesit at my villa on the
Aegean? Or Ibiza? Or Malibu?”
Do you have
a catch-phrase or quote that you like? What is it? And why do you choose it?
“Fear not, for I am with you.” From the book of Isaiah. I wore that on a chain for much of my adult
life and prior career. It reminds me
that fear, like despair, is a sin. No
cause is ever truly lost, although your part in it might end. Even if you don’t have a faith, I think it’s
a good sentiment to remember. Take
risks. Ask for the raise, volunteer for
the interesting missions (God knows I did, and had possibly the most
interesting career of anyone I know), dye your hair that weird color you’ve
been thinking about, wear that loud shirt.
Go chat up that gorgeous girl! I
wish more than anything that I had somebody when I was twelve or so to tell me
to stop being shy and just go talk to the girl.
One
of the founders of Khan Academy put it a different way: “What would you do if
you knew you couldn’t fail?” I think
that’s a good philosophy. Take
leaps. Do the scary thing. Get outside your comfort zone. For the awkward, introverted nerd I was as a
kid, and who still occupies much of my soul, it reminds and encourages me to
take risks.
Do you have a nickname? How did you get it?
Just
Nick. Nicholas sounds so formal to me. I’m not Father Christmas.
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Thanks to Nick for Participating. I walked right into that last one, didn't I? I should've revised that question.
I had a weekend traveling, digging, packing, and hauling. Zero stars given. Would not recommend -
especially the digging. At least the ground wasn't too hard and the
associated repair bears the fruits of apparent success. Also, during the traveling part, I did get to finish listening to The Great American Novel - by which I mean The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. The narrator was great. I give it 5 out of 5 stars and do highly recommend. I wish I had time to delve into that book again and share thoughts both profound and goofy. The language and expressions used by Huck really struck me this time; that alone makes reading the book a delight and deserves its own separate study.